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It is time Mr. President, Your term is up......

Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:31 PM EDT
politics, opinion
By AmericaRepublic

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With the budget and the deficit, Obama is on his last leg.  Many of his own people are starting to desert him.  His speeches and opinions on everything are getting old.  The clock is ticking and the end of this year is coming.  Mr. President it is time to leave, time to give it to someone who cares.  Time to take back our Country and truly prosper.  Until that moment happens, the headlines will be the same , the problems will still be there and nothing will be changed.  It is kind of like that old tire on your car, you know it needs to be changed, but you keep driving on it...Well this tire is fixing to pop...The Potus has done nothing but destroy our Country and our economy.   One thing the President accomplished, he made it worse than it already was and has no contingency plan, Ofcourse all he cares about is votes.  Your thoughts and views with Coh enforced.

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AmericaRepublic

The President never ceases to amaze me, Him and his Administration need to leave immediately.

  • 18 votes
#1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:34 PM EDT
Spikegary

But they won't until forceably removed, then they will booby trap the place, remove keyboard keys and the like. Nothing like walking out the door with their head held high. Maybe a beer summit can fix it-took care of the racial problems in America early on.

  • 19 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:45 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

You are probably right Spike...lol Beer Summit might just do the trick...lol..thanks for stopping by Spike...

  • 19 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:47 PM EDT
mon glas

AmericaRepublic - Excellent article!

But they won't until forceably removed, then they will booby trap the place.....

Spikegary

Lol, Well said, and so true!

  • 13 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks mon glas...lol Spike is right on the money...lol

  • 13 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
lifeinaraindropDeleted
Spikegary

cut and paste much? Where else has that been posted? Talking points.

  • 14 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:06 PM EDT
WBOB in Indiana

That list just made my tired.....care to tally up the dollar amount that the taxpayers have to pony up to cover all the expenses involved?

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Yaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn, no what you mean WBOB, here we go with the pasting....

  • 13 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:14 PM EDT
lifeinaraindrop

Didn't realize cutting & pasting were against CoH.

None-the-less, the expenses involved were covered with slight adjustment of taxes for highest earners and closing of loop-holes.

One thing the President accomplished, he made it worse than it already was and has no contingency plan,

The President has little involvement in credit markets, which is essentially the reason for the massive debt the public has accumulated, and the lack of lending toward small businesses and corporations - ultimately leading toward less hiring, and a weaker economy due to unemployment and underspending on goods.

The current crisis on Federal debt crisis is based upon Obama putting both wars on the books, which Bush did not do. Obama offered an 83:17 ratio of cuts vs. taxes, which the republican leadership previously requested, to simply turn it down.

The top 1% hold nearly 50% of all of America's total income. If there is anyone to blame, it is those sitting on billions, not investing in infrastructure, expansions, and localizing their corporations.

Though, if you're happy stroking each other's collective political egos, feel free to ignore me, I'm merely offering a challenge to AmericaRepublic's extremely weak article.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:26 PM EDT
MNniceguy

OUTSTANDING !

lifeinaraindrop #1.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:04 PM CDT

Dont hold your breath waiting for a Real reply!

  • 9 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:29 PM EDT
Drizzey

The top 1% hold nearly 50% of all of America's total income.

So what? Wealth belongs to individuals not the gov't. Life is not a zero sum game. Just because there's rich people it doesn't mean people can't achieve.

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:34 PM EDT
Tom-VermillionOhio

Since y'all have a problem with lifeinaraindrop's 'copy-paste' list of accomplishments, why don't you let us see your polictical party's/presidential accomplishments. Why are you proud of? Come on... ... to hell with what Obama's doing or not doing. We would like to see what YOU have done or want to get done. Promote yourselves!!! Hell, some of us may even 'buy' into it. This ridiculing Obama for no good reason is getting real old, and someday you may come to regret it and you will have no one to blame and ridicule but yourselves.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:57 PM EDT
lifeinaraindrop

So what? Wealth belongs to individuals not the gov't. Life is not a zero sum game. Just because there's rich people it doesn't mean people can't achieve.

I am against capitalism, nor achievement, nor rich or the pursuit of a greater quality of life or the rewards of hard work. However, these individuals reached their plateau by the backs of the hardworkers here in America, who forgo their jobs for ones paying half their wage across the Pacific.

These individuals of the 1% once invested in America, built our railways during the 1800s to the very early 1900s, paid their workers respectively so they could purchase their own products (Ford), or allowed high-taxation for our current interstate system to be built during the 50s. In every era before our time, they were philanthropists, invested in education, the arts, and nearly built entire towns on their own or cities collectively.

Today, the 1% is nothing like the Vanderbilts, Forbes, Carnegies, Morgans, Rockefellars, Astors, Coopers, Van Cortlandts. They care nothing for you.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:05 PM EDT
TIREDUVRHETORICDeleted
Rich-2229277

Wow, that was something to breeze over lifeinaraincoat!!!

All Dollars and NO Sense....

Now I realize what a political Intern feels like!

  • 7 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:44 PM EDT
lifeinaraindrop

That's funny that you mentioned those things, TIREDUVRHETORIC, cause it would seem that at least liberals have an openness to honesty when your tiny list of misses by Obama aren't on my own.

Hate to break it to you though, but the trillions spend on two wars by Bush? Yeah, they weren't on the books until Obama came in.

I guess that has done exactly CRAP to get this country headed in the right direction and fix our problems.

Read my other post. The President's powers are limited in regards to business, employment, and other economic/financial work. Blame your bosses for the lack of jobs.

Wow, that was something to breeze over lifeinaraincoat!!!

All Dollars and NO Sense....

Attacking my username, and a post worth absolutely nothing? You're a symbol for your kind.

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:59 PM EDT
MNniceguy

lifeinaraindrop

Sending you a F-R

MN

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:03 PM EDT
TIREDUVRHETORICDeleted
Rich-2229277

TIRED,

"the Democrats are colossally inept."

Wow, and that can be considered an understatement!

  • 9 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:07 PM EDT
lifeinaraindrop

And yet George W Bush is solely to blame for all the ills of the country? Interesting.

All the ills? No. For a large percentage of the federal debt? Yes. Consider that Bush gave tax cuts and grew the size of the government on top of two wars without any means of paying for it. The bail-outs, however, were not their fault, but the product of human error in the pursuit of profits. If you thoroughly understand the reason for the recession, I need not say more. The free market is as capable of hysteria and massive neglegence as any other large body of individuals.

I suppose, in an effort to be cute, you are referring to the Republicans by "my bosses". So here's the REALLY FUNNY THING........if they are to blame, as you say, for the lack of jobs then you freely admit that having the majority in one branch of legislature for 6 months is ample time to create jobs.

I am not referring to the republicans as your bosses, so your assumptions are entirely incorrect. I am speaking, in very literal terms, your bosses. I'll repeat what I posted earlier - the top 1% holds more than 50% of America's total income. They have the capacity to invest in America, to build bridges, private roadways, nearly entire townships by the hundreds of billions in their collective pools. They do not. They do not hire you, but rather, take your job and move it overseas.

How, then, would you explain the Democrats failure to create jobs with control of the house & senate for Bush's final two years and control of all three branches in Obama's first two years?

While you state "control", there is simply a majority - not a super majority, and even in such a case, Democrats require republican support due to a number of Dems being either fiscally and/or socially conservative in nature. The final two years of Bush was work upon a massive, nearly great depression level of economic disaster due to the number of bank closings and complete credit freeze. Obama's first year, as in nearly every administration, is an exercise of legal ability and fortitude. This can be seen in every new administration - which does not include the need to repair such massive damages left by the Bush admin.

The general public is colossaly inept. I blame every media outlet in America for it. While we are on the verge of entering a new aristocracy due to the vast differences between socio-economic classes (castes), the media works more on entertainment and sensationalization than debate, discourse, and thorough analysis. We have a government in our hands and by our vote and voice - we gave it up when we let the talking box do the thinking for us. The result? Debates that are as childish as badguy vs. goodguy, and dogmatic as the spanish inquisition - Rich is a prime example of this, and we're only speaking on a commoner's level, ON THE INTERNET.

  • 2 votes
#1.20 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:03 PM EDT
TIREDUVRHETORICDeleted
joe-1280782

Didn't realize cutting & pasting were against CoH.

I didn't realize we need that many laws either..but there it is in Black and white. from the man who would be king..I Hope I don't break any of those policies, i don't even know what they are

The general public is colossaly inept. I blame every media outlet in America for it. While we are on the verge of entering a new aristocracy due to the vast differences between socio-economic classes (castes), the media works more on entertainment and sensationalization than debate, discourse, and thorough analysis. We have a government in our hands and by our vote and voice - we gave it up when we let the talking box do the thinking for us. The result? Debates that are as childish as badguy vs. goodguy, and dogmatic as the spanish inquisition - Rich is a prime example of this, and we're only speaking on a commoner's level, ON THE INTERNET.

But on the positive side lifeinaraindrop, you are kind of full of yourself

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:51 PM EDT
tyler

Didn't realize cutting & pasting were against CoH.

Depends, lifeinaraindrop. 1.5 certainly was, it was this page in its entirety without attribution. Deleted. Don't copyright infringe. You're suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor.

Plagiarism and copyright infringement will not be tolerated. If you did not write something, do not portray it as your own (use the "blockquote" tag and cite your source by linking to the original content). If you do not have the right to republish the content in question, do not post it to Newsvine.

[...]

TIREDUVRHETORIC banned, rereg of multiple accounter liberalismizinsanity.

  • 17 votes
#1.23 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:20 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks Tyler.

  • 14 votes
#1.24 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:30 PM EDT
800 lb. gorilla

hey, lifeinadrop may have made a cut and paste error, but most of his/her other posts were pretty good. i have always said that attacking obama for the economy is not really legitimate. the congress holds the key, and they have been screwing us for years on end. this goes for both parties. at this time, it is imperative that they start to work towards balancing the budget, and reducing the national debt. we shall see if they do it, or not. if not, then vote them out.

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks 800....

  • 5 votes
#1.26 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
800 lb. gorilla

hey ar,

how are you? as always, it is good to see you. however, you know i will still be a critical, s.o.b.

can you give me a few missteps in fiscal policy by obama? the stimulus definitely is something where people are often critical, but then that was the second one. we had two back to back, one by each of the last two presidents, which still was authorized by congress, but the head guys sure did beg for them.

  • 3 votes
#1.27 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:38 PM EDT
Wheel

The number one place to cut spending is the one the Republicans will NEVER consider...the military. America spends more on military spending than the next 3 or 4 highest spending nations put together and it's got to stop!!

  • 3 votes
#1.28 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:39 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Doing good 800, nothing has been resolved 800, nothing, in return we are in this Stale Mate once again...and those on both sides and the middle are getting restless....

  • 6 votes
#1.29 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Here's a good link, a little outdated but reflecting the present:http://cascadepolicy.org/news/2009/02/03/obama%e2%80%99s-stimulus-plan-a-plan-without-stimulus/

  • 6 votes
#1.30 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
Drizzey

I am against capitalism,

That's obvious.

Today, the 1% is nothing like the Vanderbilts, Forbes, Carnegies, Morgans, Rockefellars, Astors, Coopers, Van Cortlandts. They care nothing for you.

That's fine with me. I care nothing for them either.

  • 5 votes
#1.31 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:43 PM EDT
800 lb. gorilla

ar

i like your link. the fellow can write. however, i do find one major flaw with it. he correctly summarizes the different aspects of the stimulus, but does not mention that not the whole sum total of the stimulus was meant to stimulate the economy. a good deal of the monies were to help improve aging infrastructure, which was not going to get done. the author is correct, it is apparently not on the private sector's radar. however, the private sector will use those bridges and roads once they are complete. they just do not want to have to pay any taxes to keep them in shape. overall, i find this to be one of the better links i have seen recently by someone opposing obama. while it is still one fellow's opinion, it is well written, and does make several good points.

  • 2 votes
#1.32 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:31 AM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks 800

  • 2 votes
#1.33 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:42 AM EDT
lifeinaraindrop

Something to keep in mind for the future about copy & pasting.

Rather unfortunate, considering I thought TIRED/liberalism and I were having reasonable dialogue that was actually going somewhere, rather than trading shots, talking points, and referencing which political commentator-said-what to just repeat here.

That's obvious.

That was a typo I wish I had edited before I ran out of time to, but hoped the rest of the post gave the impression that I find capitalism to be the virtue of a modern society. It may be imperfect, but even by its design, businesses are astoundingly secular and should be embraced by leftists for their pursuit of sciences, even with high skepticism and heavily scrutinizing eyes.

  • 1 vote
#1.34 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
cmach

Blah... And bull@!$%#. Get over it raindrop.

  • 3 votes
#1.35 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:31 PM EDT
lifeinaraindrop

Get over what?

  • 1 vote
#1.36 - Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:44 AM EDT
Reply
AmericaRepublic

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?.....lol

  • 11 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:45 PM EDT
Drizzey

What really worries me is what happens after he's voted out Nov 2012 and what he does to the gov't before Jan.

  • 14 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:46 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

No kidding and you are right on, mess it up as much as he can before he ditches out....Maybe a new political tactic...Definitely a waste of a President to say the least...

  • 15 votes
#3.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:48 PM EDT
owlsview

Drizzey, I have the same worries. In fact I am extremely concerned. A lot of loopholes have been put in place. The last thing we need while he is a lame duck(not that he hasn't been lame all of this time) is for something to happen, that he and his cronies could twist in to a reason to declare martial law, suspend the government and make himself a dictator.

  • 14 votes
#3.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
Drizzey

make himself a dictator.

That thought sends shivers down my spine.

Good point owlsview.

  • 13 votes
#3.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:09 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

I second that....well said...

  • 13 votes
#3.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:09 PM EDT
WBOB in Indiana

owls...you're spelling out some poignant thoughts. Been wondering how the one termer would handle the transisition period out of office. Any kind of "crisis" could be turned into the reasons you're stating.

  • 10 votes
#3.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
Drizzey

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."

  • 11 votes
#3.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:32 PM EDT
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owlsview

Good article AR, I just hope you don't catch to much flack for being honest with your opinion.

  • 13 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:56 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks Owl, I like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsjLgSJFENw

So many people are waking up to a true tragedy.

  • 13 votes
#4.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:58 PM EDT
Rich-2229277

Feels like more of a disaster to me AR but the FED's would never declare it!

  • 10 votes
#4.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Never....lol

  • 10 votes
#4.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT
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JayTee-3231157

There’s a limit to the amount of damage I can do wasting my own money. There are no limits to the damage Obama and the Government can do wasting my money.

The latest "Debt play" from Obama on CBS today:

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

A President turned "Dictator" ? I don't think he has that particular power, does he ? But lets let him try it anyway......he might get some needed visibility for the Democrat Presidential Primary next year.....or at least generating some Enthusiasm from Democrats to hold a Primary.

  • 12 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks Jaytee and well said...There is no sense to his madness that is for sure...No direction forward, only backwards...and all Americans are suffering alike...whether they want to admit to it or not.

  • 13 votes
#5.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:02 PM EDT
JayTee-3231157

Research on the "Guarantee" of SocSec Checks going out....or not...

The 14th amendment, section 4 (I believe) REQUIRES the govt. to service it’s debt first; where the remaining $$ go is to the discretion of the executive branch (I believe). If SS doesn’t get paid, then it's on Obama as a Constitutional violation of servicing the National Debt.

  • 9 votes
#5.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:41 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Well done Jaytee...good post.

  • 9 votes
#5.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

Now...you heard the fear mongering Obama did with the "I can't guarantee those checks will go out...." eeewww, scary...Now look at what HE SAID in a meeting with republicans a year into his immaculation:

I want you to stand up for your beliefs. And knowing this caucus, I have no doubt that you will. I want us to have a constructive debate.

The only thing I don’t want — and here I am listening to the American people, and I think they don’t want either — is for Washington to continue being so Washington-like.

(Yet he is NOT listening to the "people" on the debt celing).

I don’t think they want more gridlock. I don’t think they want more partisanship. I don’t think they want more obstruction. They didn’t send us to Washington to fight each other in some sort of political steel cage match to see who comes out alive. That’s not what they want. (Then why has he engaged in this behavior?)

...I don’t think you disagree with that — that — that there is a political vulnerability to doing anything that tinkers with Medicare. And that’s probably the biggest savings that are obtained through Paul’s plan.

And I raise that not because we shouldn’t have a serious discussion about it. I raise that because we’re not going to be able to do anything about any of these entitlements if what we do is characterize whatever proposals are put out there as, “Well, you know, that’s — the other party’s being irresponsible. The other party is trying to hurt our senior citizens. That the other party is doing X, Y, Z.” (Hey isn't that exactly what Obama did yesterday in his little "presser with CBS? A little fearmongering...he said, "And not just seniors only but veterans as well" may not get their check. I can't guarantee it?" (Yes, YOU CAN Mr. Obama..quit lying and being a friggin hypocrite as well.)

That’s why I say if we’re going to frame these debates in ways that allow us to solve them, then we can’t start off by figuring out, A, who’s to blame; B, how can we make the American people afraid of the other side. (Again, exactly the tactic Obama is using and he's losing the argument as people can see through the smoke and mirrors)

(Parentheses are my thoughts).

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2010/01/29/re-great-political-television/#ixzz1S13QyHlM

  • 6 votes
#5.4 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:47 PM EDT
800 lb. gorilla

(Yet he is NOT listening to the "people" on the debt celing).

most polls that i have seen are rating out at 70-80% now for people that believe we must see tax rates increase for corporations, and the wealthy. in a representative government, we are not being represented. one may say that obama isn't listening, but i can also see that our reps. are not listening either. at least, the president knows that the majority are for allowing the tax cuts for the wealthy to expire.

  • 1 vote
#5.5 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
Daniel A. Hallo

Time to find a way to REALLY take this country BACK!

"The collection of taxes... has been as yet only by duties on consumption. As these fall principally on the rich, it is a general desire to make them contribute the whole money we want, if possible. And we have a hope that they will furnish enough for the expenses of government and the interest of our whole public debt, foreign and domestic." --Thomas Jefferson to Comte de Moustier, 1790.

  • 2 votes
#5.6 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:07 AM EDT
800 lb. gorilla

daniel

nice freaking find! i love thomas jefferson. is it any wonder that texas is writing him out of the history books? he is some sort of crazy socialist, or something.

  • 3 votes
#5.7 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT
Daniel A. Hallo

We exist and are quoted as standing proofs that a government so modeled as to rest continually on the will of the whole society is a practicable government. Were we to break in pieces, it would damp the hopes and the efforts of the good and give triumph to those of the bad [throughout] the whole enslaved world. As members, therefore, of the universal society of mankind and standing in high and responsible relation with them, it is our sacred duty to suppress passion among ourselves and not to blast the confidence we have inspired of proof that a government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820.


This is what made Marx hate democracy, he did invent socialism, Democracy first objective is the care of the people ... this includes the power of the vote and majority rule, this is why Marx was a conservative.. he loved small governments control rather then the rule of the people. He tride to keep what he liked and disregarded the rest.

"A nation, as a society, forms a moral person, and every member of it is personally responsible for his society." --Thomas Jefferson to George Hammond, 1792.

  • 2 votes
#5.8 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:17 PM EDT
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MartinEZ

Ugg. Take our country back? From who? The black Muslim that "stole" it from you. It's funny how you right wing religious folks quantify that with which you don't agree. One week it's "god hating liberals" and today it's the President stealing the country. You're in the clouds while your head is in the sand.

  • 6 votes
#6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:24 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

and the reality of it Martin is that we are all falling off the edge of the cliff, some of us have been awake the whole ride, while others are asleep.

  • 10 votes
#6.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:27 PM EDT
trm2008

We fell off the cliff before Obama was elected. Evidently, you weren't paying attention.

  • 14 votes
#6.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
Drizzey

Yup. In 2007... when the Democrats took control.

  • 13 votes
#6.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

That's right Drizzey...lol well done..

  • 14 votes
#6.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:34 PM EDT
Rich-2229277

Hey America,

Its been a while my friend! Great points but it is very upsetting to me... I was hoping this was all just a bad dream and sooner or later I would just wake up!

I guess now that I am awake again I can always vote to ensure this never happens again... It has been a long time since I've had a good nights sleep!

  • 10 votes
#6.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks Rich...it has been awhile for all of us I think...Waking up to a tragedy everyday is getting quite redundant...

  • 11 votes
#6.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT
mon glas

MartinEZ

Its funny how you rightwing religious folks quantify that with which you don't agree.

Well Ditto! Isn't that exactly what you seem to be doing in addition to generalizing everyone with which you don't agree into a rightwing religious category.

Could it be that there are some of us that recognize, Ummm, something is amiss and just don't jive with the way our Government is being run, and the people running our Government! Food for though Ehh!

  • 9 votes
#6.7 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT
trm2008

Yup. In 2007... when the Democrats took control.

Sure, the whole mess happened in less than a year. You wanna buy a bridge?

  • 10 votes
#6.8 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:56 PM EDT
Drizzey

No, they just put their foot on the gas of too many "progressive" policies. We're now and have been seeing the results and Obama keeps throwing gas (money) on the fire.

You wanna buy a bridge?

No. The Republican's defeated that waste too.

  • 7 votes
#6.9 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT
Mike-475880

too many "progressive" policies

Like education I assume.

  • 2 votes
#6.10 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:28 PM EDT
Drizzey

Yeah. The Federal Department of Education should be eliminated according to the 10th Amendment.

  • 9 votes
#6.11 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
MNniceguy

* 'too many "progressive" policies'

Like education I assume.

Or the need to shift away from OIL !

Or help those truly in need among US !

How about fair play for ALL !

Yelp! got to stop that to!

  • 5 votes
#6.12 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Well done Drizzey...

  • 12 votes
#6.13 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT
MartinEZ

Well Ditto! Isn't that exactly what you seem to be doing in addition to generalizing everyone with which you don't agree into a rightwing religious category.

Well, I was specifically referring to the OPs habit of posting religious bull@!$%# about applying it to our politics and how "we are falling off a cliff". The reference to "taking our country back" is layered racial and bigoted overtones. I am in no way implying that the OP is a racist, however I can safely say that he feels those that share his religious outlooks are superior to those that do not.

  • 2 votes
#6.14 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

Yep, plenty of other department could be eliminated or get pared down drastically....go to a flat tax and get rid of the IRS...hey, I am all for that!

  • 5 votes
#6.15 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
Reply
Spartan-101

Goodbye Obama; Hello Palin?

I wonder how this new election's gonna turn out...

  • 7 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Let's hope for the best, I think Obama is going into an emergency landing as we speak, his engines are blown and his nose is heading straight down for an impact that he might not recover from...Stale mate of the Government once again over the deficit is like the cherry on top of the grenade....lol

  • 12 votes
#7.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:46 PM EDT
Spartan-101

Humorously well put.

LOL

  • 9 votes
#7.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

I am glad you got a good laugh out of it....lol One thing is certain, our ride is not yet over....the never-ending roller coaster has not come to its final stop...I just hope this Country will survive the damage that he has done.

  • 12 votes
#7.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT
Spartan-101

"We can rebuild, we have the technology"

LOL

No matter how much we rebuild, however, we always seem to tear it apart.

Such is the fate of humanity's fickleness.

  • 9 votes
#7.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Well said Spartan....

  • 11 votes
#7.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:19 PM EDT
Spartan-101

"Sad But True"

  • 9 votes
#7.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT
Spartan-118

The whole budget deficit deal seems to be quite a popular topic. I like this article.

Well done AR

  • 6 votes
#7.7 - Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

Thanks Spartan 118

  • 5 votes
#7.8 - Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
Reply
lib50

Lots of projection on here, as usual. One more thing. If you think ANY of the current republican candidates can beat Obama, you are in for a big disappointment. They are all nutbags and/or losers, except perhaps Huntsman. But go ahead and live in lala land a while longer.

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT
WBOB in Indiana

A lot us at this point would be willing to vote for a hot dog on a stick to stave off the current downward spiral....rather than stay with the current administration.

  • 12 votes
#8.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:27 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

lol

  • 11 votes
#8.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:28 PM EDT
Spartan-101

-WBOB-

I like that. It really narrows down those of us who are currently highly disappointed with the Administration.

Well put... LOL

  • 9 votes
#8.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

More of the truth Spartan, some cannot wake up to reasoning...in return we are on that ride that never stops, the wheel keeps turning, our Government in a Stale mate and the problems keep piling up....

  • 12 votes
#8.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:40 PM EDT
Rich-2229277

AR,

You can not reason with the unreasonable my friend!

  • 8 votes
#8.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT
lib50

You are all forgetting that as disappointed as people are about the economy and Obama, they are even more aggravated with republicans.

http://www.sify.com/news/over-8-in-10-americans-disapprove-of-congress-performance-poll-news-international-lhmsarahied.html

Not looking good in NH for republicans either.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/170849-nh-gop-reps-have-low-approval-ratings-in-new-poll

  • 1 vote
#8.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:41 PM EDT
AmericaRepublic

You have got that right Rich....

  • 9 votes
#8.7 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:37 AM EDT
JayTee-3231157

lib50

Those Low Congressional approval ratings are higher than Pelosi's when she left, and they are low because Congress has not repealed Obamacare yet.

They may get even lower until Eric Holder is finally "forced to resign" via Congressional investigation of "Fast and Furious".

  • 8 votes
#8.8 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT
lib50

Keep telling yourself that. And ask Newt how they will fare after republicans force the government into default.

Oh, republicans got elected for JOBS, which they haven't done a thing about.

    #8.9 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:11 PM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    lib, they did pass a budget...something Queen Nancy never did in her term...(Oh, and the budget is sitting in harry reid's lap where it has been for four months now)

    • 5 votes
    #8.10 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:18 AM EDT
    800 lb. gorilla

    where are the jobs? boehner promised jobs. cantor promised jobs. mcconnell promised jobs.

    where are the jobs, gop? wasn't the election in november?

      #8.11 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:40 AM EDT
      Reply
      baddestbob

      amazing how the years 2001-2009 are not mentioned in the republican party. but hey, this is the party of rewrite. roosevelt took over from hoover, you know, the guy who sucked like the vacuum cleaner and had to clean up his mess. what is and was the toomuchtimeinthepublicans response? he was a socialist. bush cut taxes like he did brush in crawford and the result was a country stripped of all of its greenery. what was the republican response when obama was elected? bush who? this guy obama is a socialist who doesn't even have a birth certificate. if there was any justice, bush and his cronies would be serving a term which would never be up.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#9 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT
      AmericaRepublic

      Time to go for now...wake up tommorow with a splitting headache and another day of Failure for Obama and his Administration...

      • 11 votes
      Reply#10 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT
      baddestbob

      in the king george bible, rovious writes in chapter 1 verse 1: sin and go forward in the knowledge that a black goat will appear to absolve you of your sins.

        #10.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
        Reply
        Runner99

        People are always pointing a finger in the past. Lot of good that does. We need to look to the future and what our expectations of our government should be. How about this, here's our tax money, that's it, that's all you get....deal with it or you are out of office. In my house there is a budget, needs, and bills to attend to. I say no a lot more to my kids than I used to with out any alternatives........just plain "no" we can't afford it right now. Concentrate on paying off all the debt, if I have to sell stuff to do it, so be it. We don't get to yell and scream if our dollars don't stretch as far as they used to, we adjust. As uncomfortable as it gets, we make it work, we have to......what's the alternative? There isn't one.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#11 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:06 PM EDT
        AmericaRepublic

        Thanks runner....good post

        • 10 votes
        #11.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:38 AM EDT
        Reply
        baddestbob

        runner,

        on post after post in thread after thread, i have stated pretty much what you have said. pay off the debt. we ain't gonna do it with spending cuts. we spend billions yep billions, a year in interest on the debt. pay off the debt and things will improve. of course, this would involve some sacrifice by both ideologies and that don't look like it is gonna happen.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#12 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:12 PM EDT
        Runner99

        Agreed baddestbob

        Here's the analogy I used in a different seed. If I take out a home equity loan to pay off high interest rates credit card that's a good thing. Right? But, if I don't cut my spending habits, and I run up those credit cards again, I'm screwed big time (and an idiot) because I can't possibly afford to pay back both the credit cards and the home equity loan. Agreed? Spending cuts are part of the equation.

        • 13 votes
        Reply#13 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
        baddestbob

        of course. we need to rein in spending, but we also need to increase revenue. i suggested in a post some time last year that we put a fifty cent tax on every gallon of gasoline until we pay off the debt. this tax could not be passed on by businesses to customers, and it would be eliminated when the $14.5 trillion debt was paid in full. while this tax would be in effect, the government would be obliged to spend no more than it took in from other revenues. in other words, this one time, special tax could not be used for anything other than paying off the debt. this met with derision from both ends of the spectrum as it seems that i was attempting to perform an unnatural sex act on their sacred cows.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#14 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:29 PM EDT
        Runner99

        ........or how about a federal lottery. You can donate as much of your money by buying tickets with the expectation that your odds of winning are slim, but possible. Tickets a buck a piece with the payout being 28% of gross revenue's recieved. Winnings non taxable. Voted your posts up,

        • 11 votes
        Reply#15 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT
        Spartan-101

        -Runner-

        That actually sounds good.

        Not good, but probable, Sounds like something the government would do to piss everybody off...

        • 7 votes
        #15.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:46 PM EDT
        Drizzey

        Pay a bunch of money with little chance of return? We already have that program, it's called Social Security.

        • 10 votes
        #15.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
        Runner99

        It would get some of those people not currently paying taxes to help out. You know that right?

        Drizzey - Good point!

        • 11 votes
        #15.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
        Runner99

        Spartan

        The goverment already pisses just about everyone off already. What's one more thing.

        • 11 votes
        #15.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:55 PM EDT
        Reply
        owlsview

        Just got back on line, first thing I see is an article about McConnell wanting to give Obama even more power over the debt increase. A Republican, comes up with another plan to just kick the can farther down the road.

        I know that we aren't supposed to call each other fools around here, but those of you who are trying to make this strictly a pro or anti-Obama battle are playing the role of fools.

        Obama is just one person. We need to take our country back. Darn straight, but not just from Obama. How about Pelosi. Reid, Boehner, McConnell and especially the damn media.Let us not forget the Kochs, Soros, the unions. There is still a long list of establishment types that need to be voted out of office. We only succeeded in removing a few of the rotten apples last time around. Party leaders on both sides are still comprised of old school politicians.

        The fools in Washington are making fools of all of us. Aren't you tired of being a fool yet? What's more important to you, your country or your party?

        • 16 votes
        Reply#16 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:04 PM EDT
        Runner99

        Owl

        I nominate you for President. I'm serious, I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.

        • 9 votes
        #16.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:20 PM EDT
        lifeinaraindrop

        In the meantime, let's just break down all of D.C. and rebuild the US with sticks and stones.

        Being an alarmist is not a justifying means to resolve our problems.

        • 1 vote
        #16.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT
        Runner99

        If someone does not sound the alarm all we are going to be left with is sticks and stones. People need to wake up and participate.

        • 10 votes
        #16.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:37 PM EDT
        Drizzey

        If you're not hearing the alarms by now you're probably the one causing them.

        • 9 votes
        #16.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:48 PM EDT
        owlsview

        Wow, me for president. Sorry but that idea would scare the hell out of me, even if I was qualified LMAO, first off, I am much to soft hearted. As much as Obama likes to bow to world leaders, I would be much more inclined to punch a few of them in the nose. Worst of all my wife would leave me. Couldn't happen anyway, I am neither a Democrat or Republican. With me as President even the agnostics would pray to God.

        Life please come in out of the rain. The time for sounding alarms is long past. Washington does need to be broken down and rebuilt stick by stick. We have more than just the debt crisis to worry about. Our educational system has become one of the worst in the world. Healthcare is still a disaster. Taxes are unfair clear across the board.Jobs, what jobs? The list goes on. We are in one hell of a mess.

        We have a President inferring that he is going to break the law. You want a fact, he may be protected because of his position but if I don't get my SS check in August I will file criminal charges against him. I'll take the laughs and the jokes and the spitting and whatever else you all may want to throw my way. As it is somebody needs to slap him in the face for trying to use such a scare tactic. Constantly treating the Constitution as a joke is not what a President should be doing.

        Palin does not impress me very favorably but after Obama's recent remarks I would find it much easier to accept her than another four years of him.

        • 12 votes
        #16.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:29 PM EDT
        AmericaRepublic

        Thanks Owl awesome posts....

        • 9 votes
        #16.6 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
        joe-1280782

        Owl

        I was going to quote the first paragraph and then I read the second and was going to quote that..then the third..then the fourth..then I figured they all make sense, Especially this line

        if I don't get my SS check in August I will file criminal charges against him.

        Liberal scare tactics we have all seen before

        • 5 votes
        #16.7 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:00 PM EDT
        Reply
        baddestbob

        The fools in Washington are making fools of all of us. Aren't you tired of being a fool yet? What's more important to you, your country or your party?

        owl,

        didn't george washington warn us of the establishment of political parties? good post.

        • 9 votes
        Reply#17 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:10 PM EDT
        RGoodfellow

        I see the morons are in season, a particularly bumpper crop this year!

          Reply#18 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:29 PM EDT
          RGoodfellow

          Oops! That should have read" "melons"

            Reply#19 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
            mightyj

            I think that Obama was 4 more years of corporatism and bad governance. We need fresh ideas and the political will to get things done.

            • 8 votes
            Reply#20 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:45 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            Thanks mightyj

            • 8 votes
            #20.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
            Reply
            owlsview

            Wife just got home, confirmed that a divorce would take place if I were President.

            • 8 votes
            Reply#21 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:32 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            LOL

            • 9 votes
            #21.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
            Runner99

            Rats!

            • 7 votes
            #21.2 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            LOL

            • 8 votes
            #21.3 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:17 PM EDT
            tesla013

            There goes any chance of my getting paid.

            • 9 votes
            #21.4 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM EDT
            Reply
            Allen of PelahatchieDeleted
            tesla013

            I reeeeaaaallllly like the poster.

            Hey AR let me see if I understand where you stand. You do NOT want Obama re-elected?

            hehehehe

            • 10 votes
            Reply#23 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:40 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            Very good...lol

            • 10 votes
            #23.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:55 PM EDT
            WBOB in Indiana

            He's upset by the golfing position (or bumper cars in the pic) that the POTUS is great at,.. to be interrupted by some pesky position where you're basically the leader of the free world.

            • 8 votes
            #23.2 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:06 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            LOL...well said WBOB...lol

            • 7 votes
            #23.3 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:08 PM EDT
            Reply
            cmach

            Good post AR.

            Some great comments also. Owlsview, I have to join the others in voting for you. No way we can convince your wife hey?

            • 6 votes
            Reply#24 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:10 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            thanks cmach.....

            • 7 votes
            #24.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT
            Reply
            Wheel

            I strongly suspect that Obama will be back in the White House in 2013, I doubt that the same can be said for the Republican tea party members, they had better plan on going back to the real world, a place they have never been before. Expect to see the house change hands again.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#25 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            I have to disagree Wheel, I think the Potus is living his last few months as a President....There are too many on both sides who would agree with me....

            • 8 votes
            #25.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:38 PM EDT
            Wheel

            Source?

            • 2 votes
            #25.2 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT
            AmericaRepublic

            Every where Wheel...no need to find documentation...it is in the "know"...

            • 7 votes
            #25.3 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:42 PM EDT
            Wheel

            So, wishful thinking then. About what I thought.

            • 2 votes
            #25.4 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT
            Daniel A. Hallo

            no need to find documentation...it is in the "know"...

            Math is in the "know: too, and carries more weight then your " baseless assumptions". And it's not the fuzzy conservative kind of math..

            With big Corporations donating to Republicans, one Company for each $200,000+, But Obama has gotten more then all the other teapubs combined and with the vast majority of his donations coming from individuals.... how many potential voters gave more? ...

            I think its logical to say that votes count more then dollars in an election.... Don't you?

            This is an article showing fear..not fact.

            • 2 votes
            #25.5 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:22 PM EDT
            Reply
            larry ling

            Yeah, like what we really need is the theocratic. plutocratic, corporatist, neo-fascist grand vision for america that the GOP/TeaParty will shove down our throats if elected ! No thanks !! In all of the Newsvine articles I've read, this one in particular has been populated with the opinions from some of the most economically misinformed, historically uneducated, delusional and generational political loyalists to the GOP I've ever seen. Many of you that are haters of Obama and the DEMS choose to completely ignore the fact that every single major financial scandal in US history has been with the direct or indirect complicit involvement of the GOP ! You also frequently choose to conveniently ignore and deny economic facts and current legislative history that led the US into the current financial mess. Most likely you are the same ones that subscribe to the notion that the earth is only 6,000 years old and don't believe in evolution, dispute climate change, and exclusively get your facts from Fox News which by the way is proving to be the slime machine it always has been. As has been said many times "You have a right to your opinion, but not the facts". Your opinions are getting very tiresome to read, so I'm gonna go find another article to read, one that is based in reality and facts and not some preachy, holier than thou, Reagan worshiper, Republican/TeaPartier's fantasy world.

            By the way, I am an independent and have voted for candidates from both parties for over 40 years, and while I certainly don't attribute all bad governance to the GOP, I also won't give the DEMS a free pass for mistakes made and there have been many. I am just so disgusted and sick of the american people failing to realize that this is no longer a democracy we live in. How can it be a fair representative democracy when our political parties and it's leaders are more committed to representing BIG MONEYED interests over the people that actually voted for them ? We the people are not fairly represented in government and our votes are nothing more than a ruse to fool and placate the masses with the intention to distract us from who really controls government and policy. It is those who contribute the most cash to campaigns who always will ultimately decide what does or does not happen in the USA. Both the DEMS and the GOP are complicit in allowing this to happen. In many disturbing ways, they might as well be the same party !

            By the way, if you think that the current economic nightmare is bad, prepare yourself for the next even bigger crash. www.marketwatch.com/story/the-next-worse-financial-crisis-2011-07-06

            • 2 votes
            Reply#26 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:11 PM EDT
            Al-2739446

            Thank you. Some of these right wing nuts are actually trying to say that FDR caused the recession to last longer by creating government programs to help americans. Do you notice a familiar theme? Anything that is designed to help americans is, well, unamerican. Huh? We can pay for wars, defense equipment that we will never use, and tons of money to foreign governments who could give a rat's carcass about the survival of america. We are still providing troops in Japan and Germany-for what? We are providing aid to country's like Israel who wants to act independent while being dependent. All of these foreign countries receiving aid have been in existence for a long time. Why are they still on welfare?

            • 1 vote
            #26.1 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:46 PM EDT
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